Comments on: Unspinning Patrick Lim’s spin on his Penang mega project http://anilnetto.com/governance/accountability/patrick-lim-spins-his-penang-mega-project/ Let justice flow like a mighty river Sun, 12 Feb 2012 15:25:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Cheah http://anilnetto.com/governance/accountability/patrick-lim-spins-his-penang-mega-project/comment-page-1/#comment-38851 Cheah Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:32:27 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/2007/09/03/patrick-lim-spins-his-penang-mega-project/#comment-38851 People with the old mind-set find it difficult to work with Lim Guan Eng. There is no more kick back, no more you scrath my back and I scratch your just like the good old days of Gerakan and BN. Some former Gerakan guys such as Tan Tee Beng finds his style alien to such an extent that he wants Lim to quit. He just can't stand him for reasons only known to him. Calling Lim as no class is childish. This guy Tan is really the childish one, a spoilt brat... To LGE, keep up the good work. Call on me if you need my help. People with the old mind-set find it difficult to work with Lim Guan Eng. There is no more kick back, no more you scrath my back and I scratch your just like the good old days of Gerakan and BN.

Some former Gerakan guys such as Tan Tee Beng finds his style alien to such an extent that he wants Lim to quit. He just can’t stand him for reasons only known to him. Calling Lim as no class is childish. This guy Tan is really the childish one, a spoilt brat…

To LGE, keep up the good work. Call on me if you need my help.

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]]> By: Malaysians_save_Malaysia http://anilnetto.com/governance/accountability/patrick-lim-spins-his-penang-mega-project/comment-page-1/#comment-119 Malaysians_save_Malaysia Tue, 25 Mar 2008 15:50:20 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/2007/09/03/patrick-lim-spins-his-penang-mega-project/#comment-119 Penangnites will support whoever who works in an honest and sincere manner to uplift the living standard of Penangnites. We want to be compared to the the world best, not "Malaysia Boleh" standard!!! Penangnites will support whoever who works in an honest and sincere manner to uplift the living standard of Penangnites. We want to be compared to the the world best, not “Malaysia Boleh” standard!!!

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]]> By: Y Leong http://anilnetto.com/governance/accountability/patrick-lim-spins-his-penang-mega-project/comment-page-1/#comment-120 Y Leong Tue, 25 Mar 2008 11:37:12 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/2007/09/03/patrick-lim-spins-his-penang-mega-project/#comment-120 The Rape and Pillaging of Penang stops from now on. The Barisan Rakyat under Lim Guan Eng has the support of all Penangites in particular and I am sure Malaysians all over (they will be planning to do the necessary when PRU 13 comes around - to reject BN entirely) to clean the s*** left behind by the BN... We say no to Patrick Badawi and his crap called PGCC. Frankly he can take his plans and models and shove it up his "where the sun never shines" Nether region. Go back to your equine park and play with your horses s*** and leave Penang alone. You are a disgrace... Lim Guan Eng, you have our blessings to take the plans and proposals presented and throw them into Sungai Pinang. The Rape and Pillaging of Penang stops from now on. The Barisan Rakyat under Lim Guan Eng has the support of all Penangites in particular and I am sure Malaysians all over (they will be planning to do the necessary when PRU 13 comes around – to reject BN entirely) to clean the s*** left behind by the BN… We say no to Patrick Badawi and his crap called PGCC. Frankly he can take his plans and models and shove it up his “where the sun never shines” Nether region. Go back to your equine park and play with your horses s*** and leave Penang alone. You are a disgrace…
Lim Guan Eng, you have our blessings to take the plans and proposals presented and throw them into Sungai Pinang.

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]]> By: ghostline http://anilnetto.com/governance/accountability/patrick-lim-spins-his-penang-mega-project/comment-page-1/#comment-121 ghostline Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:22:42 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/2007/09/03/patrick-lim-spins-his-penang-mega-project/#comment-121 I'm an architect myself, and while I personally like the PGCC scheme (main towers only) - as an architectural object - I also think that the whole project smacks of a land grab by the (previously) well-connected. Given the dense and somewhat haphazard nature of Penang's urban core, context-sensitive infill projects that renew/replace the existing buildings one at a time would probably be a better solution. Of course, such small-scale projects offer correspondingly lower ROI's and less 'glamour' factor. Properly done, urban greenery and public spaces can be compensated for in creative ways - landscaped gardens, rooftop planting, sky gardens etc, but the public must be able to ACCESS these green spaces for it to be meaningful. Having a nominal 'green carpet' is not enough either: the most successful part of the KLCC greenery, IMHO, is in fact outside the main park: the small, densely forested plot at the corner of Jalan P.Ramlee and Jalan Pinang. Whatever the architectural merits (or otherwise) of the PGCC project, the root of the problem is the lack of transparency and apparent cronyism involved in the 'procurement' of the land, as well as the blatant disregard for public opinion displayed by the developer when it previously thought itself to be immune to the public. The people are not stupid, and to try to weasel the additional buildings past them was a condescending move on the part of the stakeholders. A thorough review of the project will be a major step forward to introducing transparency into governance and undoing the culture of feudal patronage that has plagued this country for so long. I’m an architect myself, and while I personally like the PGCC scheme (main towers only) – as an architectural object – I also think that the whole project smacks of a land grab by the (previously) well-connected. Given the dense and somewhat haphazard nature of Penang’s urban core, context-sensitive infill projects that renew/replace the existing buildings one at a time would probably be a better solution. Of course, such small-scale projects offer correspondingly lower ROI’s and less ‘glamour’ factor.

Properly done, urban greenery and public spaces can be compensated for in creative ways – landscaped gardens, rooftop planting, sky gardens etc, but the public must be able to ACCESS these green spaces for it to be meaningful. Having a nominal ‘green carpet’ is not enough either: the most successful part of the KLCC greenery, IMHO, is in fact outside the main park: the small, densely forested plot at the corner of Jalan P.Ramlee and Jalan Pinang.

Whatever the architectural merits (or otherwise) of the PGCC project, the root of the problem is the lack of transparency and apparent cronyism involved in the ‘procurement’ of the land, as well as the blatant disregard for public opinion displayed by the developer when it previously thought itself to be immune to the public. The people are not stupid, and to try to weasel the additional buildings past them was a condescending move on the part of the stakeholders.

A thorough review of the project will be a major step forward to introducing transparency into governance and undoing the culture of feudal patronage that has plagued this country for so long.

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]]> By: Environ http://anilnetto.com/governance/accountability/patrick-lim-spins-his-penang-mega-project/comment-page-1/#comment-118 Environ Wed, 05 Sep 2007 03:10:02 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/2007/09/03/patrick-lim-spins-his-penang-mega-project/#comment-118 This sounds very much like the PR spin that we get on logging and deforestation going on in Sarawak, with regards to the highly polluting alumininium smelter plant that looks like a reality for poor Bintulu folks. There was an article in the state controlled news(paper), about jobs, how they have planted trees back, followed by approval given by some US body. So tired of all of this. This sounds very much like the PR spin that we get on logging and deforestation going on in Sarawak, with regards to the highly polluting alumininium smelter plant that looks like a reality for poor Bintulu folks.
There was an article in the state controlled news(paper), about jobs, how they have planted trees back, followed by approval given by some US body.
So tired of all of this.

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