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]]> By: BOU http://anilnetto.com/governance/accountability/live-anwar-vs-ahmad-shabery-oil-price-hike-debate/comment-page-10/#comment-12049 BOU Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:00:32 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=374#comment-12049 ... How long can Malaysia survive over its reliance on motor vehicles, and such poor public transportation systems when compared to other oriental neighbouring countries? How can Malaysia survive, relying on government subsidies being haemoraged from the rakyat... Proton and Cyber Jaya and Putra Jaya? How long can Malaysia survive with inequity in rights and divisive clicks amongst the races. If the government can only look out for the majority race, and provide them with a safety net ... do you expect the chinese or indians to open our arms in sharing the wealth despite being disadvantaged, and treated as second class citixens, not to have to mention being marginalised and constantly whinged to because we have "more" because we work harder? How can the majority blame the wealthy minorities for being able to accumulate wealth... Malaysia is littered with failures. Its failure masked by the rubbish slogan Boleh!... If it were boleh.. you'd think the economy would have outgrown tiny miniscule Singapore or even Hong Kong by now... 2008.. still doesnt pose a threat.. pathetic. … How long can Malaysia survive over its reliance on motor vehicles, and such poor public transportation systems when compared to other oriental neighbouring countries?

How can Malaysia survive, relying on government subsidies being haemoraged from the rakyat…

Proton and Cyber Jaya and Putra Jaya?

How long can Malaysia survive with inequity in rights and divisive clicks amongst the races.

If the government can only look out for the majority race, and provide them with a safety net … do you expect the chinese or indians to open our arms in sharing the wealth despite being disadvantaged, and treated as second class citixens, not to have to mention being marginalised and constantly whinged to because we have “more” because we work harder? How can the majority blame the wealthy minorities for being able to accumulate wealth…

Malaysia is littered with failures.

Its failure masked by the rubbish slogan Boleh!… If it were boleh.. you’d think the economy would have outgrown tiny miniscule Singapore or even Hong Kong by now… 2008.. still doesnt pose a threat.. pathetic.

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]]> By: oneperson http://anilnetto.com/governance/accountability/live-anwar-vs-ahmad-shabery-oil-price-hike-debate/comment-page-10/#comment-6417 oneperson Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:46:39 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=374#comment-6417 When is the debate he said he wanted to debate someone on the IMF? Come on!! Be a sport. All the comment above cant magically make the blueprint or action plan from Anwar to appear. There is no solid information from our esteemed ex DPM. Step one how? Step two how? What will we need to do? Did any one catch which part of the debate he was pointing out how to decrease fuel prices? Which PART? Which MINUTE? When is the debate he said he wanted to debate someone on the IMF? Come on!! Be a sport.

All the comment above cant magically make the blueprint or action plan from Anwar to appear. There is no solid information from our esteemed ex DPM.

Step one how?
Step two how?

What will we need to do? Did any one catch which part of the debate he was pointing out how to decrease fuel prices? Which PART? Which MINUTE?

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]]> By: muthas http://anilnetto.com/governance/accountability/live-anwar-vs-ahmad-shabery-oil-price-hike-debate/comment-page-10/#comment-6148 muthas Sat, 09 Aug 2008 20:33:00 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=374#comment-6148 i hope in future datuk seri abdullah and datuk ser najib will face the debat with dsai.dont think you can push here and push there. i hope in future datuk seri abdullah and datuk ser najib will face the debat with dsai.dont think you can push here and push there.

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]]> By: muthas http://anilnetto.com/governance/accountability/live-anwar-vs-ahmad-shabery-oil-price-hike-debate/comment-page-10/#comment-6147 muthas Sat, 09 Aug 2008 20:22:02 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=374#comment-6147 i strongly supports DSAI , we cant compare norway and malaysia in terms of income per capita.lets talk about our neighbor singapore,the production operator earn $1000 as basic pay and only pay $ 1.80 per litre.But we as oil produser paying rm 2.90 per liter and our basic pay is rm450.our spending power is extremely poor.BN please dont blintly give statement.wake up. i strongly supports DSAI , we cant compare norway and malaysia in terms of income per capita.lets talk about our neighbor singapore,the production operator earn $1000 as basic pay and only pay $ 1.80 per litre.But we as oil produser paying rm 2.90 per liter and our basic pay is rm450.our spending power is extremely poor.BN please dont blintly give statement.wake up.

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]]> By: Kuantan http://anilnetto.com/governance/accountability/live-anwar-vs-ahmad-shabery-oil-price-hike-debate/comment-page-10/#comment-5649 Kuantan Sat, 02 Aug 2008 07:57:52 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=374#comment-5649 now the fuel price is going to be like a yo-yo. This show how deficient our leaders are. How can a man like Shabery without political history personally attack Anwar as he cannot attack Shabery personally? now the fuel price is going to be like a yo-yo. This show how deficient our leaders are. How can a man like Shabery
without political history personally attack Anwar as he cannot attack Shabery personally?

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]]> By: oneperson http://anilnetto.com/governance/accountability/live-anwar-vs-ahmad-shabery-oil-price-hike-debate/comment-page-10/#comment-5274 oneperson Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11:20:12 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=374#comment-5274 madu_tiga get a second hand economic book and learn about national income and expenditure and come in this blog and comment about things you know. If not sure consult an economist even from PKR they would have to tell you that the debate had nothing to do with politics but with economics (which is much much more important). There was NO clear and defined way that Annie could get away with the promises he made. There was no blue print or plan of action. Even if he were to mention one or two solid economic plan (that he was thinking of) he would have been overwhelmed with support in the economic community. madu_tiga

get a second hand economic book and learn about national income and expenditure and come in this blog and comment about things you know. If not sure consult an economist even from PKR they would have to tell you that the debate had nothing to do with politics but with economics (which is much much more important). There was NO clear and defined way that Annie could get away with the promises he made. There was no blue print or plan of action. Even if he were to mention one or two solid economic plan (that he was thinking of) he would have been overwhelmed with support in the economic community.

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]]> By: oneperson http://anilnetto.com/governance/accountability/live-anwar-vs-ahmad-shabery-oil-price-hike-debate/comment-page-9/#comment-5273 oneperson Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11:10:04 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=374#comment-5273 Correct me if I am wrong at one point in the debate DSAI said something about the IMF and he was willing to debate any economist regarding the validity of IMF. I completely agree and hope that he would once and for all debate on the issue to clear his actions in 1987. What you guys think? Back to the subject at heart I think: So in your oppinion would oil prices go down if DSAI was PM? After hearing the debate I hope that I would be able to drive to work and not feel stressed about it just like the rest of the world is doing now (because it is a lie when we say that the whole world is in an energy crisis). I think that he would ride against the global economic tidal wave of energy crisis and lead us to cheaper fuel. 1.92 - 0.50 = 1.42 come on guys… I dont care how he do it he promised us cheaper fuel in September 2008, and darn it he will give us cheaper fuel even if it mean he must piss the petrol from his own body into my petrol tank. Correct me if I am wrong at one point in the debate DSAI said something about the IMF and he was willing to debate any economist regarding the validity of IMF. I completely agree and hope that he would once and for all debate on the issue to clear his actions in 1987. What you guys think?

Back to the subject at heart I think:
So in your oppinion would oil prices go down if DSAI was PM? After hearing the debate I hope that I would be able to drive to work and not feel stressed about it just like the rest of the world is doing now (because it is a lie when we say that the whole world is in an energy crisis). I think that he would ride against the global economic tidal wave of energy crisis and lead us to cheaper fuel. 1.92 – 0.50 = 1.42 come on guys… I dont care how he do it he promised us cheaper fuel in September 2008, and darn it he will give us cheaper fuel even if it mean he must piss the petrol from his own body into my petrol tank.

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]]> By: madu_tiga http://anilnetto.com/governance/accountability/live-anwar-vs-ahmad-shabery-oil-price-hike-debate/comment-page-9/#comment-4926 madu_tiga Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:12:44 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=374#comment-4926 During the debate, I don't think Mr shabery cheek explain to the rakyat well enough to return them to power if there is another election. Forget about the calculation, RM5 billion or above RM15 billion for the subsidy, who cares?, all I know is the government didn't keep their promise of not increasing the oil price. Sabery did not answer one question from the panel, CAN WE TRUST the government with the big big saving from the abolishment of oil subsidy this time, when in 2006 only some part of the saving from subsidy reduction were utilized for the supposedly public transportation system upgrading? The point of the question was "can we trust the government?" Now the question about 50 sen price reduction on the current price of oil is more acceptable than the incoherent explanation by the info minister ON WHY WE MUST INCREASE THE OIL PRICE. Which is better, a rm2.80 or rm2.30(after deducting the 50sen). Do not make a smart argument about "DSAI is in fact increasing the price from 1.80 to 2.30" this is a lawyer buruk punya argument. WE LOOK at the prevailing market price and we reduce as much as we can. Who is the bigger Liar, the government or DSAI? And PLEASE no, don't tell me Shabery thrashed DSAI. SHABERY THRASHED HIMSELF comprehensively. During the debate, I don’t think Mr shabery cheek explain to the rakyat well enough to return them to power if there is another election. Forget about the calculation, RM5 billion or above RM15 billion for the subsidy, who cares?, all I know is the government didn’t keep their promise of not increasing the oil price.

Sabery did not answer one question from the panel, CAN WE TRUST the government with the big big saving from the abolishment of oil subsidy this time, when in 2006 only some part of the saving from subsidy reduction were utilized for the supposedly public transportation system upgrading? The point of the question was “can we trust the government?”

Now the question about 50 sen price reduction on the current price of oil is more acceptable than the incoherent explanation by the info minister ON WHY WE MUST INCREASE THE OIL PRICE. Which is better, a rm2.80 or rm2.30(after deducting the 50sen). Do not make a smart argument about “DSAI is in fact increasing the price from 1.80 to 2.30″ this is a lawyer buruk punya argument. WE LOOK at the prevailing market price and we reduce as much as we can. Who is the bigger Liar, the government or DSAI?

And PLEASE no, don’t tell me Shabery thrashed DSAI. SHABERY THRASHED HIMSELF comprehensively.

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]]> By: Sudirman http://anilnetto.com/governance/accountability/live-anwar-vs-ahmad-shabery-oil-price-hike-debate/comment-page-9/#comment-4792 Sudirman Mon, 21 Jul 2008 06:55:44 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=374#comment-4792 Kalau ikut kesopanan Nordin Kadi:- Seolah-olah Nordin Kadi seumpama seorang yang telah diluluskan oleh UMNO sebagai penal BN akan buat serangan peribadi seboleh-bolehnya kepada DSAI, untuk mendapatkan keseronokan di kalangan kawan-kawan dalam UMNO bahawa Nordin Kadi adalah ****** UMNO yang baik. Kalau ikut kesopanan Nordin Kadi:-

Seolah-olah Nordin Kadi seumpama seorang yang telah diluluskan oleh UMNO sebagai penal BN akan buat serangan peribadi seboleh-bolehnya kepada DSAI, untuk mendapatkan keseronokan di kalangan kawan-kawan dalam UMNO bahawa Nordin Kadi adalah ****** UMNO yang baik.

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