Comments on: High noon at Penang’s ‘High Chaparral’ http://anilnetto.com/governance/accountability/high-noon-at-penangs-high-chaparral/ Let justice flow like a mighty river Mon, 21 May 2012 12:38:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: kelvin308 http://anilnetto.com/governance/accountability/high-noon-at-penangs-high-chaparral/comment-page-1/#comment-25066 kelvin308 Wed, 10 Jun 2009 14:58:24 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=12524#comment-25066 My utmost sympathy to a 'heritage' village. Well, KSKoon bin Umno (administration) has robbed the land from villagers to such extend with Rm 11/sf land price. That was very wrong, a sin can't wash off... SHAME! Then, what about new government by PAKATAN? The issue is about Umno robs people land irrespective of rules and law. What Pakatan can't do something about it and let the BN (culprits) done the job. Pakatan certainly has ways to make the project fail or caused hardship to the developer. That is why the LGE government owed the villagers an explaination as well. I do believe Penang's smart CM LGE has the capability to fight for people interest. Prove it. My utmost sympathy to a ‘heritage’ village. Well, KSKoon bin Umno (administration) has robbed the land from villagers to such extend with Rm 11/sf land price. That was very wrong, a sin can’t wash off… SHAME!

Then, what about new government by PAKATAN? The issue is about Umno robs people land irrespective of rules and law. What Pakatan can’t do something about it and let the BN (culprits) done the job. Pakatan certainly has ways to make the project fail or caused hardship to the developer. That is why the LGE government owed the villagers an explaination as well. I do believe Penang’s smart CM LGE has the capability to fight for people interest. Prove it.

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]]> By: Ong Eu Soon http://anilnetto.com/governance/accountability/high-noon-at-penangs-high-chaparral/comment-page-1/#comment-25040 Ong Eu Soon Wed, 10 Jun 2009 02:11:21 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=12524#comment-25040 Why prevented Aliran and Jerit from attending the meeting between the residents and the state government as observer? Is (the Aliran rep) so notoriuos that his mere present can caused the downfall of Penang state government? LGE's CAT ... Any wonder why you feel betrayed? LGE started to behave like Dr M, he want win win situation, that is his state government win, the developer win... but .... get lost Aliran and Jerit! Even during KTK reign, KTK would tried to subtlely aviod direct confrontation with Aliran or any activist associated with Aliran. This is the first time, the state government openly prevent Aliran rep from attending a meeting. Malu LGE! Why prevented Aliran and Jerit from attending the meeting between the residents and the state government as observer? Is (the Aliran rep) so notoriuos that his mere present can caused the downfall of Penang state government? LGE’s CAT … Any wonder why you feel betrayed? LGE started to behave like Dr M, he want win win situation, that is his state government win, the developer win… but …. get lost Aliran and Jerit! Even during KTK reign, KTK would tried to subtlely aviod direct confrontation with Aliran or any activist associated with Aliran. This is the first time, the state government openly prevent Aliran rep from attending a meeting. Malu LGE!

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]]> By: anna brella http://anilnetto.com/governance/accountability/high-noon-at-penangs-high-chaparral/comment-page-1/#comment-24944 anna brella Sun, 07 Jun 2009 22:10:23 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=12524#comment-24944 Looks to me like GREED rules over there in Penang just as much as it seems to do elsewhere in Malaysia, what with all these very shady disposition of land deals all over the place, like the eyebrow-raising one for the sale of the (PKFZ)land between the PKA and KDSB (at RM25.00psf for RM1.088billion) and earlier between that fishermen's cooperative and KDSB (RM2.18pfs). This apparent non-vfm land sale agreement - between the state government and the Koperasi Pegawai Kanan Kerajaan Pulau Pinang - also reeks of a conflict of interest IMO, plus an alleged insider dealing job with the developers that stinks to high heaven. On what grounds did the Court of Appeal overturn the High Court judgement? Did the PR/DAP state government know/understand all the nitty gritties of the land sale agreement when it was signed (by its civil service representatives presumably?) apparently only three weeks after it came into power and took over the running of the state government? "Imagine Power To The People" John Lennon. Looks to me like GREED rules over there in Penang just as much as it seems to do elsewhere in Malaysia, what with all these very shady disposition of land deals all over the place, like the eyebrow-raising one for the sale of the (PKFZ)land between the PKA and KDSB (at RM25.00psf for RM1.088billion) and earlier between that fishermen’s cooperative and KDSB (RM2.18pfs).

This apparent non-vfm land sale agreement – between the state government and the Koperasi Pegawai Kanan Kerajaan Pulau Pinang – also reeks of a conflict of interest IMO, plus an alleged insider dealing job with the developers that stinks to high heaven.

On what grounds did the Court of Appeal overturn the High Court judgement?

Did the PR/DAP state government know/understand all the nitty gritties of the land sale agreement when it was signed (by its civil service representatives presumably?) apparently only three weeks after it came into power and took over the running of the state government?

“Imagine Power To The People” John Lennon.

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]]> By: zozdaniel http://anilnetto.com/governance/accountability/high-noon-at-penangs-high-chaparral/comment-page-1/#comment-24943 zozdaniel Sun, 07 Jun 2009 21:57:24 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=12524#comment-24943 Can somebody help to group up the unfortunate squatters in various localities who have been victimised by Developers in Penang?!!! You could notice that LGE is clearly turning a blind eye to our plight. What nonsense with CAT ??? They know pretty well that they can't rule Penang for long and getting buddy with the developers in double quick time. Can somebody help to group up the unfortunate squatters in various localities who have been victimised by Developers in Penang?!!!

You could notice that LGE is clearly turning a blind eye to our plight. What nonsense with CAT ??? They know pretty well that they can’t rule Penang for long and getting buddy with the developers in double quick time.

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]]> By: mut http://anilnetto.com/governance/accountability/high-noon-at-penangs-high-chaparral/comment-page-1/#comment-24938 mut Sun, 07 Jun 2009 17:15:22 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=12524#comment-24938 ...They would protest even if Pakatan did not win the state election, and BN still hold the state administration! What are they actually asking for here? The state government to review the sale of the land at RM11 per square feet? That is something the current government should look into. Sounds like another scandal. Residential land in Gelugor should be around RM80-90 psf (transacted). I have no idea how they came up with RM150, but I would sure like to read their valuers' report claiming that. Maybe that would open the door to an investigation and stopping the sale, but the fact is these people are still squatting on government land. I would have problems if it were my land too, and they refused to move (even if they called it the fabled Shangri-La). Penang is not like Perak where they have abundant land. The next question would be who is responsible for the transfer post March 08? And what was the authority? Did the current government have anything to do with this or is it something procedural to actions taken before the new government was sworn in? What could be legally done? ...Andrew on June 7th, 2009 at 1.01pm ..I have alleged that the DAP may have taken money from developers for its electoral campaign in March 2008. LGE has not responded to these allegations. He has instead chosen to pretend not to notice. Is he not another wolf (assisting developers to rape Penang like KTK did) in sheep’s clothing?... Talk is cheap. Doubly so on the net. Why allege? Is it hearsay? Do you have the proof? If you do, this would bring down the state government (I have no problems with that - corrupt governments deserve the boot). Why don't you go to the authorities if it is illegal? MACC would love to hear more from you! I say do everything with an eye on the future. Not only landslides, but lawsuits as well. The Penang govt won't be winning too many of those in Malaysian courts. …They would protest even if Pakatan did not win the state election, and BN still hold the state administration!

What are they actually asking for here? The state government to review the sale of the land at RM11 per square feet? That is something the current government should look into. Sounds like another scandal. Residential land in Gelugor should be around RM80-90 psf (transacted). I have no idea how they came up with RM150, but I would sure like to read their valuers’ report claiming that. Maybe that would open the door to an investigation and stopping the sale, but the fact is these people are still squatting on government land. I would have problems if it were my land too, and they refused to move (even if they called it the fabled Shangri-La). Penang is not like Perak where they have abundant land.

The next question would be who is responsible for the transfer post March 08? And what was the authority? Did the current government have anything to do with this or is it something procedural to actions taken before the new government was sworn in? What could be legally done?

…Andrew on June 7th, 2009 at 1.01pm

..I have alleged that the DAP may have taken money from developers for its electoral campaign in March 2008. LGE has not responded to these allegations. He has instead chosen to pretend not to notice. Is he not another wolf (assisting developers to rape Penang like KTK did) in sheep’s clothing?…

Talk is cheap. Doubly so on the net. Why allege? Is it hearsay? Do you have the proof? If you do, this would bring down the state government (I have no problems with that – corrupt governments deserve the boot). Why don’t you go to the authorities if it is illegal? MACC would love to hear more from you!

I say do everything with an eye on the future. Not only landslides, but lawsuits as well. The Penang govt won’t be winning too many of those in Malaysian courts.

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]]> By: mrgelugor http://anilnetto.com/governance/accountability/high-noon-at-penangs-high-chaparral/comment-page-1/#comment-24932 mrgelugor Sun, 07 Jun 2009 09:29:49 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=12524#comment-24932 I understand from your article that these residents are not landowners and are paying TOL to the government. They are squatters who had been staying for quite a while on the land with government approval. Since the government or landowner wants back the land, they should shift out and they have no legal rights on the land. The cowshed and cattle are an anomaly in this highly developed area. The residents have to look for alternative farming land elsewhere out of town. But knowing the political opportunities, they are protesting to get high compensation like many squatters do, although they have no legal rights to the land. They would protest even if Pakatan did not win the state election, and BN still hold the state administration! I understand from your article that these residents are not landowners and are paying TOL to the government. They are squatters who had been staying for quite a while on the land with government approval. Since the government or landowner wants back the land, they should shift out and they have no legal rights on the land. The cowshed and cattle are an anomaly in this highly developed area. The residents have to look for alternative farming land elsewhere out of town. But knowing the political opportunities, they are protesting to get high compensation like many squatters do, although they have no legal rights to the land. They would protest even if Pakatan did not win the state election, and BN still hold the state administration!

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]]> By: S.Rajan http://anilnetto.com/governance/accountability/high-noon-at-penangs-high-chaparral/comment-page-1/#comment-24928 S.Rajan Sun, 07 Jun 2009 06:34:25 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=12524#comment-24928 Nw Pakatan Gov is trying to side with the developers and the elected YB's Rayer,Karpal,Ravin & Guan Eng r trying to wash their hands off to the extend tat none of them except Ravin attended the PC yday but he was found to be talking nonsence & seems like playing politics to the people there. Pls b reminded tat u still hve to come back to us in d next GE b rest assure tat v d public will not hesitate to kick d Pakatan out. CM Guan Eng u must walk the talk and save this village from the goons of BN to prove tat u r d people gov as wat u claimed to b. Why d Indians r always being victimised? I remember tat Rayar,Karpal & Ravin had told the residents tat they will save this village if they r elected and d developer hve to go over their dead body if they want to take the land away from the residents? Now they r no bothered and cant b seen at the village to help d residents. Nw Pakatan Gov is trying to side with the developers and the elected YB’s Rayer,Karpal,Ravin & Guan Eng r trying to wash their hands off to the extend tat none of them except Ravin attended the PC yday but he was found to be talking nonsence & seems like playing politics to the people there. Pls b reminded tat u still hve to come back to us in d next GE b rest assure tat v d public will not hesitate to kick d Pakatan out. CM Guan Eng u must walk the talk and save this village from the goons of BN to prove tat u r d people gov as wat u claimed to b. Why d Indians r always being victimised? I remember tat Rayar,Karpal & Ravin had told the residents tat they will save this village if they r elected and d developer hve to go over their dead body if they want to take the land away from the residents? Now they r no bothered and cant b seen at the village to help d residents.

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]]> By: wira http://anilnetto.com/governance/accountability/high-noon-at-penangs-high-chaparral/comment-page-1/#comment-24920 wira Sun, 07 Jun 2009 05:04:50 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=12524#comment-24920 Even though the approval was given days after the formation of the new pakatan government, one must not forget that the senior civil servant cooperative is behind this. Those who enjoy the British comedy series "Yes, Minister" & "Yes, Prime Minister" ought to realise that contrary to popular belief, it's the civil servant, especially the senior civil service that runs the government than the politicians who institute policies rather than doing the mundane affairs like routine approvals. Moreover, it's likely that such land affairs within the municipality is approved by the relevant department in MPPP. However, I how the pakatan government will look into the affairs of the affected residents with compassion and duty. Please assist them sincerely. Even though the approval was given days after the formation of the new pakatan government, one must not forget that the senior civil servant cooperative is behind this.

Those who enjoy the British comedy series “Yes, Minister” & “Yes, Prime Minister” ought to realise that contrary to popular belief, it’s the civil servant, especially the senior civil service that runs the government than the politicians who institute policies rather than doing the mundane affairs like routine approvals.
Moreover, it’s likely that such land affairs within the municipality is approved by the relevant department in MPPP.

However, I how the pakatan government will look into the affairs of the affected residents with compassion and duty.
Please assist them sincerely.

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]]> By: Andrew http://anilnetto.com/governance/accountability/high-noon-at-penangs-high-chaparral/comment-page-1/#comment-24919 Andrew Sun, 07 Jun 2009 05:01:19 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=12524#comment-24919 LGE's DAP/PR government is business friendly. I am not surprised they told the villagers of Kg Pala one thing and then signed away the land to the developer in a surreptitious manner. This is what is now happening in Penang. LGE's government talks about helping the poor and being people-friendly but in reality, they (appear to be friendly with) the developers. Look at what is happening in Tg Bunga and Batu Ferringhi. The Tg Bungah Residents Association has been appealing for a full stop work order in Chee Seng Gardens against the Bolton/Surin project but LGE does not care. I have alleged that the DAP may have taken money from developers for its electoral campaign in March 2008. LGE has not responded to these allegations. He has instead chosen to pretend not to notice. Is he not another wolf (assisting developers to rape Penang like KTK did) in sheep's clothing? LGE’s DAP/PR government is business friendly. I am not surprised they told the villagers of Kg Pala one thing and then signed away the land to the developer in a surreptitious manner. This is what is now happening in Penang. LGE’s government talks about helping the poor and being people-friendly but in reality, they (appear to be friendly with) the developers. Look at what is happening in Tg Bunga and Batu Ferringhi. The Tg Bungah Residents Association has been appealing for a full stop work order in Chee Seng Gardens against the Bolton/Surin project but LGE does not care. I have alleged that the DAP may have taken money from developers for its electoral campaign in March 2008. LGE has not responded to these allegations. He has instead chosen to pretend not to notice. Is he not another wolf (assisting developers to rape Penang like KTK did) in sheep’s clothing?

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]]> By: devil http://anilnetto.com/governance/accountability/high-noon-at-penangs-high-chaparral/comment-page-1/#comment-24917 devil Sun, 07 Jun 2009 04:12:23 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=12524#comment-24917 Koh Tsu Koon and gang are running scared. He is keeping very very quiet. I dont think he will dare go back to Penang.... Koh Tsu Koon and gang are running scared. He is keeping very very quiet. I dont think he will dare go back to Penang….

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