Comments on: Has the Penang govt blundered? http://anilnetto.com/governance/accountability/has-the-penang-govt-blundered/ Let justice flow like a mighty river Thu, 24 May 2012 17:09:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Malaysian niah.. http://anilnetto.com/governance/accountability/has-the-penang-govt-blundered/comment-page-2/#comment-11149 Malaysian niah.. Fri, 10 Oct 2008 02:22:34 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=3984#comment-11149 gerakan is a bunch of cancer. my say is stop importing them back to penang since it has already been chemotherapized for good! any resumes that read - gerakan or former gerakan member should not be allowed to come to the new govt of penang because we have been so stagnant for the last 18 years, we now want to move forward fast .. irregardles if the rest of the country is governed by UMNO/BN. one day penang has to be like singapore ... let the other states rot with corruptions, power abuse and scandals .. i dont really f****** care. all i care about is coming back and living in penang is like in the develop country, world class infrastructure, world class society relationship & mentality and world class business and entertainment avenue. not forgeting of course the right to practice freedom of speech and religion in a racially harmonious society. all the other UMNO/BN rule states can go **** themselves for all i care. bottomline, my homeland penang has to be more than above par that will leave them in awe and wonder. gerakan is a bunch of cancer. my say is stop importing them back to penang since it has already been chemotherapized for good!

any resumes that read – gerakan or former gerakan member should not be allowed to come to the new govt of penang because we have been so stagnant for the last 18 years, we now want to move forward fast .. irregardles if the rest of the country is governed by UMNO/BN.

one day penang has to be like singapore … let the other states rot with corruptions, power abuse and scandals .. i dont really f****** care. all i care about is coming back and living in penang is like in the develop country, world class infrastructure, world class society relationship & mentality and world class business and entertainment avenue. not forgeting of course the right to practice freedom of speech and religion in a racially harmonious society.

all the other UMNO/BN rule states can go **** themselves for all i care. bottomline, my homeland penang has to be more than above par that will leave them in awe and wonder.

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]]> By: romerz http://anilnetto.com/governance/accountability/has-the-penang-govt-blundered/comment-page-2/#comment-11135 romerz Thu, 09 Oct 2008 16:25:32 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=3984#comment-11135 looes74, I like Dr Koh as a person but that doesn't mean I like his politics. The only reason why I'm engaging him in debates is because he is the only one amongst the BN power elites I have access to. So I thought I'd do everything I can to convince him to bring his party out of BN whilst he is still prepared to listen to me. Isn't this a good thing? Isn't UMNO the big bad wolf of the country and every effort to isolate them is a step forward to a better Malaysia? I may engage them in talks and debate but I already know where my vote is going come the next GE. Is that enough for you? Do you want the numbers or don't you? Idealism alone may bring about changes one day but thats too far away for my liking! looes74,

I like Dr Koh as a person but that doesn’t mean I like his politics.

The only reason why I’m engaging him in debates is because he is the only one amongst the BN power elites I have access to. So I thought I’d do everything I can to convince him to bring his party out of BN whilst he is still prepared to listen to me.

Isn’t this a good thing?

Isn’t UMNO the big bad wolf of the country and every effort to isolate them is a step forward to a better Malaysia?

I may engage them in talks and debate but I already know where my vote is going come the next GE. Is that enough for you?

Do you want the numbers or don’t you? Idealism alone may bring about changes one day but thats too far away for my liking!

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]]> By: looes74 http://anilnetto.com/governance/accountability/has-the-penang-govt-blundered/comment-page-1/#comment-11116 looes74 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 14:39:13 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=3984#comment-11116 Correction. KTK did not hold Land portfolio Correction. KTK did not hold Land portfolio

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]]> By: looes74 http://anilnetto.com/governance/accountability/has-the-penang-govt-blundered/comment-page-1/#comment-11113 looes74 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 14:04:01 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=3984#comment-11113 Dear Romerz, That's precisely the motto of DAP from the very beginning. Malaysian Malaysia originates from Lee Kuan Yew when Singapore was under Malaysia. The success of Singapore now with reserves up or perhaps to 180 Billion USD is a clear indication. Malaysian Malaysia concept is the cornerstone of DAP policy all this while. Which I don't understand why you seem to have reservation the present Penang state government. I am sorry for the oversight of lumping you together with the Gerakan folks. Well, sometimes I assume one as in this case you,knew the other as in this Dr Koh long enough, one is affiliated to that person. That's my assumption with you and Dr Koh Dear Romerz, To be frank, Gerakan is as good as dead when Tan Chee Koon left Gerakan. Worst still, before 308, Gerakan only has 13 ADUNS with only 3 state excos with one CM who does hold The State Land Portfolio as compared to 5 UMNO state excos. I am extremely certain with the emergence of strong DAP leadership under LGE, I believe you would have agreed with me that Gerakan is doomed as far as wanting to govern Penang in the next term and the next term and so on and so for. It's like asking Chiang Kai Shek to take over China. Or in Singapore, asking Lim Yew Hock to take over LKY's PAP government in 1963GE after Lim Yew Hock's government kenna booted out in 1959GE. A landslide victory similar to LGE. Like I say before, unless Gerakan can muscle out UMNO, MIC and MCA by contesting all 40 state constituencies with strong chance of winning at least 25. I believe Penangites would not be stupid enough to bring back Gerakan in the next term. What LKS said was correct. Penangites need Penang CM with power. 18 years of KTK's leadership is long enough. Hence,I said if LGE government does not screw up big time, you bet that GE13,GE14,GE15, DAP would still be in power. If ever LGE and his team learn fully from PAP in Singapore, Gerakan just like the yesteryear of Lim Yew Hock, David Marshall and even JBJ of Singapore can say sayonara of ever setting foot in Penang's politics Dear Romerz,
That’s precisely the motto of DAP from the very beginning. Malaysian Malaysia originates from Lee Kuan Yew when Singapore was under Malaysia. The success of Singapore now with reserves up or perhaps to 180 Billion USD is a clear indication. Malaysian Malaysia concept is the cornerstone of DAP policy all this while. Which I don’t understand why you seem to have reservation the present Penang state government.
I am sorry for the oversight of lumping you together with the Gerakan folks. Well, sometimes I assume one as in this case you,knew the other as in this Dr Koh long enough, one is affiliated to that person. That’s my assumption with you and Dr Koh

Dear Romerz,
To be frank, Gerakan is as good as dead when Tan Chee Koon left Gerakan. Worst still, before 308, Gerakan only has 13 ADUNS with only 3 state excos with one CM who does hold The State Land Portfolio as compared to 5 UMNO state excos. I am extremely certain with the emergence of strong DAP leadership under LGE, I believe you would have agreed with me that Gerakan is doomed as far as wanting to govern Penang in the next term and the next term and so on and so for. It’s like asking Chiang Kai Shek to take over China. Or in Singapore, asking Lim Yew Hock to take over LKY’s PAP government in 1963GE after Lim Yew Hock’s government kenna booted out in 1959GE. A landslide victory similar to LGE.
Like I say before, unless Gerakan can muscle out UMNO, MIC and MCA by contesting all 40 state constituencies with strong chance of winning at least 25. I believe Penangites would not be stupid enough to bring back Gerakan in the next term. What LKS said was correct. Penangites need Penang CM with power. 18 years of KTK’s leadership is long enough. Hence,I said if LGE government does not screw up big time, you bet that GE13,GE14,GE15, DAP would still be in power. If ever LGE and his team learn fully from PAP in Singapore, Gerakan just like the yesteryear of Lim Yew Hock, David Marshall and even JBJ of Singapore can say sayonara of ever setting foot in Penang’s politics

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]]> By: James Lee http://anilnetto.com/governance/accountability/has-the-penang-govt-blundered/comment-page-1/#comment-11110 James Lee Thu, 09 Oct 2008 12:38:38 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=3984#comment-11110 Penangites do have high expectations of Ah Guan Eng and I am sure we all want him to succeed. Frankly, I do not think anyone here wants to give him a hard time -- we all want a better Penang, right, and he is our hope? But, it scares the hell out of me when I see (pardon my language) what they say "even his fart smells sweet"! With such sentiments among the rakyat, it is no wonder that people running the country get away with ... in bodohland. Penangites do have high expectations of Ah Guan Eng and I am sure we all want him to succeed. Frankly, I do not think anyone here wants to give him a hard time — we all want a better Penang, right, and he is our hope?

But, it scares the hell out of me when I see (pardon my language) what they say “even his fart smells sweet”! With such sentiments among the rakyat, it is no wonder that people running the country get away with … in bodohland.

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]]> By: June http://anilnetto.com/governance/accountability/has-the-penang-govt-blundered/comment-page-1/#comment-11108 June Thu, 09 Oct 2008 12:14:35 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=3984#comment-11108 Carry on with WIFI and let time tell??? Hello, Ernest Cheah, don't play play o! I have only one life and so do you!. Does anyone know what the Precautionary Principle means technically?! Carry on with WIFI and let time tell???

Hello, Ernest Cheah, don’t play play o! I have only one life and so do you!. Does anyone know what the Precautionary Principle means technically?!

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]]> By: Sunny http://anilnetto.com/governance/accountability/has-the-penang-govt-blundered/comment-page-1/#comment-11103 Sunny Thu, 09 Oct 2008 10:29:32 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=3984#comment-11103 "any part of the foreshore or sea-bed for a period exceeding ninety-nine years" I dont get the issue here..... can that piece of land after reclamation still be considered foreshore or sea-bed? “any part of the foreshore or sea-bed for a period exceeding ninety-nine years”

I dont get the issue here….. can that piece of land after reclamation still be considered foreshore or sea-bed?

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]]> By: Malaysian niah.. http://anilnetto.com/governance/accountability/has-the-penang-govt-blundered/comment-page-1/#comment-11102 Malaysian niah.. Thu, 09 Oct 2008 09:48:57 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=3984#comment-11102 Laws are not caste in stone ... laws are meant to support the progress of society with time. if it needs to be changed for the better than so be it ... there is no need to comply to laws because they happen to be laws. laws need constant review. one in particular is the ISA and perhaps this particular land laws too. Laws are not caste in stone … laws are meant to support the progress of society with time. if it needs to be changed for the better than so be it … there is no need to comply to laws because they happen to be laws. laws need constant review.

one in particular is the ISA and perhaps this particular land laws too.

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]]> By: colimac http://anilnetto.com/governance/accountability/has-the-penang-govt-blundered/comment-page-1/#comment-11101 colimac Thu, 09 Oct 2008 08:46:43 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=3984#comment-11101 MR GILL WHETHER ITS GOOD OR BAD FOR THE LAND CONVERSATION I DONT KNOW BUT CAN YOU COMMENT ON THE LANDSCAMS AND WHY IS IT THAT KSK ISKEEPING SILENT. YOU SHOULS COMMENTMOREON AHMAD ISMAIL' COMMENT REGARDING THE CHINESE.ARE YOU SCARED? ITS SEMS TO ME THAT YOUR LIFE WAS SO DEPENDENT ON THE GERAKAN GOVTSO MUCH SO THAT YOU HAVE LOSS YOURSENSEOF DIRECTION. AHMAD ISMAIL TOUR KSK PHOTO.``GERAKANHAS VANISHESINTO THIN AIR,LGE IS A SEASON POLITICIAN WHO KNOWS WHAT HE IS GOING.IF HE GOES BY ECONOMY CLASS DON'T YOU APPRECIATE IT,UNLIKE YOUR FRIENDS THAT FLY BY 1CLASS SNOORING AWAY ON GOVT EXPENSES MR GILL WHETHER ITS GOOD OR BAD FOR THE LAND CONVERSATION I DONT KNOW BUT CAN YOU COMMENT ON THE LANDSCAMS AND WHY IS IT THAT KSK ISKEEPING SILENT. YOU SHOULS COMMENTMOREON AHMAD ISMAIL’ COMMENT REGARDING THE CHINESE.ARE YOU SCARED? ITS SEMS TO ME THAT YOUR LIFE WAS SO DEPENDENT ON THE GERAKAN GOVTSO MUCH SO THAT YOU HAVE LOSS YOURSENSEOF DIRECTION. AHMAD ISMAIL TOUR KSK PHOTO.“GERAKANHAS VANISHESINTO THIN AIR,LGE IS A SEASON POLITICIAN WHO KNOWS WHAT HE IS GOING.IF HE GOES BY ECONOMY CLASS DON’T YOU APPRECIATE IT,UNLIKE YOUR FRIENDS THAT FLY BY 1CLASS SNOORING AWAY ON GOVT EXPENSES

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]]> By: wira http://anilnetto.com/governance/accountability/has-the-penang-govt-blundered/comment-page-1/#comment-11100 wira Thu, 09 Oct 2008 08:06:38 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=3984#comment-11100 Many parts of the Island, even before humans set foot on it, were naturally claimed from the sea. The Bayan Lepas Free Industrial Zone to the west of the airport runway can be said to be reclaimed from the sea by nature as sea shells were dug up from those areas during factory construction. Think. If you build your house on what was once a beach, can I still claim public access to it as all beaches in this country are public access land and may not be privately owned ? So, after a portion of the sea is reclaimed, by definition, it is no longer a foreshore or a sea bed. Thus, I believe the Penang State government is right in allowing freehold conversion to increase state revenue. Many parts of the Island, even before humans set foot on it, were naturally claimed from the sea.

The Bayan Lepas Free Industrial Zone to the west of the airport runway can be said to be reclaimed from the sea by nature as sea shells were dug up from those areas during factory construction.

Think.
If you build your house on what was once a beach, can I still claim public access to it as all beaches in this country are public access land and may not be privately owned ?

So, after a portion of the sea is reclaimed, by definition, it is no longer a foreshore or a sea bed.

Thus, I believe the Penang State government is right in allowing freehold conversion to increase state revenue.

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