Comment posted Confusion over Batu Kawan monorail test track by MyBlog.
I dont really see an issue here for now! Lending area to test their rail at their cost seems okay but the Gormen should take some form of financial guranttee which can be invoked in any event such as the failure of the company to clear the land as and when the gormen wants it back. Remember the tennis court issue, what was the final outcome, if I am not wrong it is in the courts??? Why should this be?
But quite fuzzy, maybe the right thing to do will be for the state gormen to issue a clarification, a complete one and not piece meal which they have done thus far. Piece meal information usually misses out on many issues.
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- Don’t know why you are so negative. PR may not be perfect but they are our best bet and definitely not equal in the worst sense to BN.
You know, this is only the first step, i.e. to get in a new Gormen through the next GE(13), thereafter there is a lot of work to do. We have to push PR to make the changes in the system, hopefully if they win in GE13 and then dismantle the other socially ingrained monopolies and racialism such as the Malaysian Chinese economy, cronyfication of power, vilification of particular races or professions etc, etc etc. You know it is relatively easier to change political balance because there is a mechanism through the general elections to do so. What about those socially racist monopolies that have been ingrained into particular races through brainwashing at home and through education systems such as the Chinese and Tamil schools in this country. While a lot of us want the Malays to give equality to all races, what about equality in all spheres whether official or otherwise. So the road is long, hard and dark, if we want to achieve a Malaysian Malaysia then all (without exception) institutions, social systems, constitution, laws etc have to be amended or dismantled and reformed.
Its a long road, don’t get disheartened so easily, they will need to be a lot more determination and perseverance if a successful and vibrant Malaysian Malaysia is desired.
Sorry if I offended you and sorry if I am not clear in my explanation as I had to choose my words to avoid any sort of repercussion. I could be blunt but that is unwise as we don’t live in a vacuum.
- Habib Rak and Wira has a valid point BUT there must be some arrangement to fall back on in the event…..!!!
Penang needs the investment and if the Gormen shows some flexibilty backed by accountability, we should give them the benefit of knowing what is best for the state.
Agree WIRA and Habib Rak
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Datuk R Arunsalam is pretty diversified in his businesses. He is a Penang based, and these would be the list of companies:
a) Janar Textiles Sdn Bhd
b) Asia Pacific Events Promotion Sdn Bhd
c) KLE Higher Education Sdn Bhd
d) Rasa Sayang Marketing (South Afica) Pty Ltd
e) Azurro Investments Limited
Several years ago, I did meet Datuk RA once at the airport when I was coming back from Chicago. The above is what was on his Business card.
After going through the article, it is easy to understand that at least one company called MRails wants to set up a factory in Penang mainland making monorail cabins meant for export and the owners have requested the state to allow them the use of an strip of unused public land to build a track to test their product.
If the test track is allowed, the company will be applying to PDC to buy a piece of land for the factory.
Looks pretty standard to me for a firm which wants to establish a factory site.
Of course it looks confusing because you pick on the differences. If you focus on the common points, you’ll come out with the same assessment as I.
How much is the state getting in return for allowing a private firm to use state land for the firm’s business?
Why doesn’t the firm apply to buy the land for both the assembly plant and the test track?
I dont really see an issue here for now! Lending area to test their rail at their cost seems okay but the Gormen should take some form of financial guranttee which can be invoked in any event such as the failure of the company to clear the land as and when the gormen wants it back. Remember the tennis court issue, what was the final outcome, if I am not wrong it is in the courts??? Why should this be?
But quite fuzzy, maybe the right thing to do will be for the state gormen to issue a clarification, a complete one and not piece meal which they have done thus far. Piece meal information usually misses out on many issues.
Well Anil.
If I have the money to set up a factory in this country, I go around scouting for incentives.
If Penang doesn’t give me what I want, I go to Perak or even to China.
Maybe they will give me better incentives.
There is no hard and fast rule about this and I’ll be stupid not to extract something from the government if I were to put my money here to create employment and business.
I don’t think we should complain if things are above board.
Anil, the approach taken here is what we call a proof of concept approach. The investor is prepared to take some risk to proof the concept. The State is giving access to land to allow the investor to proof it. It just an approach which, if it works, will be done on a win win basis. Lets not get too carried away with “proper” process that we miss the objective.
Dubious and bias!
Bias comment from PR apologists. Dubious incentive for private business. The state officially get nothing from this deal but allow private business to use state land.
The state officially get nothing but give something. I hope there are no corruption and power abuse involved here unofficially.
Why the state government is so good to private business?
GK — Check and read the article properly, you block head
Negative! Negative! Whatever the State Government does is always not correct with this sick man!
Perhaps, it does not enlarge his bank balance! LOL.
For goodness sake, do not make a fool of yourself and please refrain from commenting in this forum unless you are well versed with the matter or if you totally comprehend the gist of the article. Please for goodness sake, do not make a fool of yourself!
Habib Rak and Wira has a valid point BUT there must be some arrangement to fall back on in the event…..!!!
Penang needs the investment and if the Gormen shows some flexibilty backed by accountability, we should give them the benefit of knowing what is best for the state.
Agree WIRA and Habib Rak
They should investigate! Its hard to relocate kampungs but its easy to build monorail test tracks. I wonder what they wanna test when they whole states transportation system is in chaos. But as I know, it was clarified in the Penang State Assembly that this company is setting up this test track for projects else where and not in Penang, long term? UMNO was also upset as since losing Penang, they are broke, they cant earn commision from this “Scandal”. How to trust Ramasamy? He (seems) only interested in having an Indian Deputy Prime Minister. … Not even performing well as DCM but already book his place as DPM before even winning? hahaha. 5 time 2 = 1-, 2 times 5 = 10… Pakatan Rakyat = UMNO, UMNO=Pakatan Raykat!!! Vote Dalbinder for a better Penang. hehehe
I will build monorail straight, no need to test all… hahahhahahahhahahahahahha
Don’t know why you are so negative. PR may not be perfect but they are our best bet and definitely not equal in the worst sense to BN.
You know, this is only the first step, i.e. to get in a new Gormen through the next GE(13), thereafter there is a lot of work to do. We have to push PR to make the changes in the system, hopefully if they win in GE13 and then dismantle the other socially ingrained monopolies and racialism such as the Malaysian Chinese economy, cronyfication of power, vilification of particular races or professions etc, etc etc. You know it is relatively easier to change political balance because there is a mechanism through the general elections to do so. What about those socially racist monopolies that have been ingrained into particular races through brainwashing at home and through education systems such as the Chinese and Tamil schools in this country. While a lot of us want the Malays to give equality to all races, what about equality in all spheres whether official or otherwise. So the road is long, hard and dark, if we want to achieve a Malaysian Malaysia then all (without exception) institutions, social systems, constitution, laws etc have to be amended or dismantled and reformed.
Its a long road, don’t get disheartened so easily, they will need to be a lot more determination and perseverance if a successful and vibrant Malaysian Malaysia is desired.
Sorry if I offended you and sorry if I am not clear in my explanation as I had to choose my words to avoid any sort of repercussion. I could be blunt but that is unwise as we don’t live in a vacuum.
If anyone has a gripe with the terms and conditons for this monorail project, they should really go through Art Harun’s take on PLUS H’WY and how the BN/UMNO gomen screwed us ‘up, down and around’. Please go read his article, as it would guarantee to get your blood on a hot boil and then do ALL you can to unseat BN. Anil, please get going and do an article on the Plus h’way terms in comparison with this.
Angela, it is not about how bad the other side is to justify whatever that MAY be wrong with the present PR governments in the various states.
Anil had revealed some conflicting statements and had expressed his concerns and reservations.
If PR is as transparent and aboveboard as umno/BN then there should be more forthcoming in revealing information that would have allayed the concerns and fears of the rakyat. It is a sign of healthy democracy. A wrong that is mitigated in comparison with another wrong still does not make it right.
To suggest that the country nor the state gets nothing from this agreement is to deny that the country needs investors and entrepreneurs to create jobs for all Malaysians.
You may already have a lot of money in the bank but please stop behaving maliciously to impose your standard to every Ahmad, Ah Chong and Bala in this country unless you are willing to share your wealth unconditionally with them.
Hi Anil,
Have these tracks already been build? Probably you can go for a site visit and take some photos.
I don’t think so. They have just been discussing over the last couple of months.
But yes, I will keep an eye on this.
If we think Kg Puah is Indian issues, then we should be very happy that LGE is helping INDIANS and allowing them to test drive the monorails. Or may NGOs or Gerakan/UMNO Government give them a place to go so
Anil
How about another eye and some reporting on the 100 year old houses/village in Sentul where there are many Indians working for KTM? Arent they like Kg Puah?
Why don’t the Penang government ask the monorail manufacturer to sponsor for the project and all cost be borne by the manufacturer??
Bros,
Lim Guan Eng Government has been taking us for a ride since coming into power..
Now they want us to take the Monorail ride..!!!
rgds
It is good that the PR Governments can continue to offer free rides and in the process enriching the State’s coffer.
Rather than not offering you anything and depleting the State’s coffer. The savings from mismanagement of funds which are so rampant in BN led Governments had resulted in the continued decline of Malaysia as a state and country.
http://www.melewar-mig.com/coinfo_corpstructure.html Mengapa Melewar sudah siapkan syarikat untuk monorail pulau pinang? Adakah melewar terlibat dengan Dato JK? Dah lama kami dengar cerita yang Kerajaan PP telah bincang projek dengan Melewar melalui seorang bekas insuran MAA dan tiba tiba Dato JK muncul.
Hm…… I think Penang people are really have to be pleased. Everybody complaints that the state government is not doing any good for them, and when the state looks into new alternate public transport, the people take it as some fishy thing is happening.
So what should the state government do? Just hand out hard cash to everyone? Elo, this way of course all will be happy, but your gold mountain will also go flat one day la!
Let them do the test run and see what happens la, if they screw up, then throw them out from their sit. Instead like now, project also not yet start already kena kutuk from all directions, who will have the … to serve you people??
i think the monorail is good idea.
Dont give bad comment,let pakatan to do their best and stop nagging PR