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		<title>By: RuiRui</title>
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		<dc:creator>RuiRui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adun Teh, please help understand Taman Ratu is going to build another row of semidees at the foothill opposite the Straits Regency Apartments in Beverlly Hill.  The developer just cleared only a portion of the hill behind Surin&#039;s project and that causes a massive flooding at Chee Seng Gardens recently.  Can you imagine what will happen when they clear the whole stretch up to the existing water tank.  God bless the residents at Chee Seng Garden.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adun Teh, please help understand Taman Ratu is going to build another row of semidees at the foothill opposite the Straits Regency Apartments in Beverlly Hill.  The developer just cleared only a portion of the hill behind Surin&#8217;s project and that causes a massive flooding at Chee Seng Gardens recently.  Can you imagine what will happen when they clear the whole stretch up to the existing water tank.  God bless the residents at Chee Seng Garden.
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		<title>By: Is DBKL finalling listening? &#171; Save Bukit Gasing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Is DBKL finalling listening? &#171; Save Bukit Gasing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 10:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In recent month, we have heard Redha attempts to justify hillslope developments and claiming that many countries have successfully developed on steep hillslopes.  Sadly, Redha conveniently forgets that our planning authorities and developer are really much more interested in profits. Yes, both do make profits.  Many of you would have seen and read about the agony faced by Medan Damansara folks.  However, if you wish to know how much damage hillslope development can inflict on innocent residents in the vicinity of &#8220;malaysia boleh&#8221; approvals, do go to this site. http://anilnetto.com/accountability/amazing-ever-seen-a-flooded-hill-slope/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In recent month, we have heard Redha attempts to justify hillslope developments and claiming that many countries have successfully developed on steep hillslopes.  Sadly, Redha conveniently forgets that our planning authorities and developer are really much more interested in profits. Yes, both do make profits.  Many of you would have seen and read about the agony faced by Medan Damansara folks.  However, if you wish to know how much damage hillslope development can inflict on innocent residents in the vicinity of &#8220;malaysia boleh&#8221; approvals, do go to this site. <a href="http://anilnetto.com/accountability/amazing-ever-seen-a-flooded-hill-slope/" rel="nofollow">http://anilnetto.com/accountability/amazing-ever-seen-a-flooded-hill-slope/</a> [...]
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		<title>By: MAHAGURU58</title>
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		<dc:creator>MAHAGURU58</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 03:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those of us who are Penangites know how our home island used to be till Koh Tsu Koon took over from Lim Chong Eu.

Rampant hillside developments @ I&#039;d rather call them ecological destructions, have destroyed the pristine rainforest&#039;s of our island &#039;s water catchment areas and succeeded in robbing the Penang Islanders of their once famous rivers that flowed with clean, drinkable waters. 

Water that once drew the British to stop over at our home island and stock up on their drinking water supplies before sailing on to China.

Penang Island has been destroyed by the TIDAK APA ATTITUDE of the previous Gerakan governments.

Sungai Pinang is dead.

The Jelutong foreshore is stinking with accumulated rubbish dumped indiscriminately by the MPPP all those years from the Jelutong Shell jetty area stretching to the Chinese kampong at Jalan Tokong Batu, besides my village at Jalan Kota Giam.

Who do I blame?

The previous state governments under GERAKAN.

Now, we all see the hills of Penang being destroyed in the name of development.

Devilopment - to borrow Antares&#039;s coinage.

Anil, we need to save our home island!

Let&#039;s galvanise an action group - a &#039;Save Penang&#039; task force!

What say you and others here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those of us who are Penangites know how our home island used to be till Koh Tsu Koon took over from Lim Chong Eu.</p>
<p>Rampant hillside developments @ I&#8217;d rather call them ecological destructions, have destroyed the pristine rainforest&#8217;s of our island &#8216;s water catchment areas and succeeded in robbing the Penang Islanders of their once famous rivers that flowed with clean, drinkable waters. </p>
<p>Water that once drew the British to stop over at our home island and stock up on their drinking water supplies before sailing on to China.</p>
<p>Penang Island has been destroyed by the TIDAK APA ATTITUDE of the previous Gerakan governments.</p>
<p>Sungai Pinang is dead.</p>
<p>The Jelutong foreshore is stinking with accumulated rubbish dumped indiscriminately by the MPPP all those years from the Jelutong Shell jetty area stretching to the Chinese kampong at Jalan Tokong Batu, besides my village at Jalan Kota Giam.</p>
<p>Who do I blame?</p>
<p>The previous state governments under GERAKAN.</p>
<p>Now, we all see the hills of Penang being destroyed in the name of development.</p>
<p>Devilopment &#8211; to borrow Antares&#8217;s coinage.</p>
<p>Anil, we need to save our home island!</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s galvanise an action group &#8211; a &#8216;Save Penang&#8217; task force!</p>
<p>What say you and others here?
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		<title>By: George Aeria</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Aeria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 03:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Becakayu is not looking at the issue wholesomely. Places like Kelantan &amp; Terengganu are seasonnally flooded due to the low lying areas near to the coast, and the severe amounts of water dropped by rain over a short period of time. They have been historically flooding. 

However, in Chee Seng Gardens, Tanjong Bunga this is a hill slope. Floods do not happen on a hill slope unless something has gone wrong, seriously wrong. I have lived in this area for nearly 40 years and there has not been a flood due to water run off from the hills in this manner until the recent hill cutting exercise began. 

So becakayu, do realise that we are not saying that the flooding in the East Coast states are not bad. They are. And our government should be taking efforts to minimise such flooding.

However, to allow hill cutting will only make worse many areas: -
a. landslides and hill collapse
b. huge water run off, flooding areas immediately surrounding the hill cut area and all low lying areas below the hill
c. Huge amounts of siltation, drain clogging, 
d. Loss of life, be it drowning or burried in tons of mud slides or even hill movement as in the Highland case
e. Sea life destruction due to huge amounts of mud being swept into the sea (pollution) - fishermen suffer too evventually. It is a cycle of destruction

So do realise that this is a problem and we Malaysian as a country must address it. Saying things like it floods in the East Coast states do NOT help at all and if we have nothing concrete to say, maybe we should review the facts before commenting and thus comment intelligently

George</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Becakayu is not looking at the issue wholesomely. Places like Kelantan &amp; Terengganu are seasonnally flooded due to the low lying areas near to the coast, and the severe amounts of water dropped by rain over a short period of time. They have been historically flooding. </p>
<p>However, in Chee Seng Gardens, Tanjong Bunga this is a hill slope. Floods do not happen on a hill slope unless something has gone wrong, seriously wrong. I have lived in this area for nearly 40 years and there has not been a flood due to water run off from the hills in this manner until the recent hill cutting exercise began. </p>
<p>So becakayu, do realise that we are not saying that the flooding in the East Coast states are not bad. They are. And our government should be taking efforts to minimise such flooding.</p>
<p>However, to allow hill cutting will only make worse many areas: -<br />
a. landslides and hill collapse<br />
b. huge water run off, flooding areas immediately surrounding the hill cut area and all low lying areas below the hill<br />
c. Huge amounts of siltation, drain clogging,<br />
d. Loss of life, be it drowning or burried in tons of mud slides or even hill movement as in the Highland case<br />
e. Sea life destruction due to huge amounts of mud being swept into the sea (pollution) &#8211; fishermen suffer too evventually. It is a cycle of destruction</p>
<p>So do realise that this is a problem and we Malaysian as a country must address it. Saying things like it floods in the East Coast states do NOT help at all and if we have nothing concrete to say, maybe we should review the facts before commenting and thus comment intelligently</p>
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		<title>By: KM</title>
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		<dc:creator>KM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 03:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction, 

YB Teh (ADUN for Tanjung Bungah), should take note and take necessary action to ensure such incident will NOT recur.</description>
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<p>YB Teh (ADUN for Tanjung Bungah), should take note and take necessary action to ensure such incident will NOT recur.
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		<title>By: Scene 6 - Act 1 – “In search for Justice” &#171; Save Bukit Gasing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scene 6 - Act 1 – “In search for Justice” &#171; Save Bukit Gasing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 00:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Medan Damansara residents live in fear  and residents near to hill slope developments clean up and count the costs in Penang,  residents living in fear of development by Gasing Meridian Sdn. Bhd. (GMSB) on Bukit Gasing [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Medan Damansara residents live in fear  and residents near to hill slope developments clean up and count the costs in Penang,  residents living in fear of development by Gasing Meridian Sdn. Bhd. (GMSB) on Bukit Gasing [...]
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		<title>By: Rainy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rainy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please accept/publish more photos of the hillslope sliding &amp; flooding, including some from the Miami Green/BF area.  Maybe we can embarrass the govt into doing something? Photos of drains plugged with garbage, another cause of flooding, should be posted as well. Maybe a separate site?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please accept/publish more photos of the hillslope sliding &amp; flooding, including some from the Miami Green/BF area.  Maybe we can embarrass the govt into doing something? Photos of drains plugged with garbage, another cause of flooding, should be posted as well. Maybe a separate site?
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		<title>By: KM</title>
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		<dc:creator>KM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 13:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YB Teh (ADUN for Tanjung Bungah), should take note and take necessary action to ensure such incident recur.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YB Teh (ADUN for Tanjung Bungah), should take note and take necessary action to ensure such incident recur.
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		<description>Well in the options given I had marked not sure as the reason for the floods. Simply put it is the buyers. Supply and demand will have to meet in order for a market to exist. Let us not blame others but overselves for being so inconsiderate towards mother nauture. We Malaysian are very insensitive towards the environment. Only when we see floods we cry foul.</description>
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		<dc:creator>Floods, nature and human tamper &#171; Mustafa K Anuar&#8217;s blog</dc:creator>
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